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Old - October 12th, 2004, 04:01 PM
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what's the fastest and cheapest way to start out tuning a vr4???

Alright, this question might sound stupid to some 3s members but i'm not sure the best way to start up my tuning (i'm strapped for cash, in b/w jobs).
I'm trying to find the fastest way to get a good start on a 92 vr4. Being that i'm low on cash i'd like to start out on cheaper mods that do great things, therefore getting a good start off basis.

my current engine mods (minimal, but just starting):

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Optima Red-Top power core battery
plugs
plug wires
battery conection wires
battery connectors

all pretty basic mods but it's a start

anyway, i'd appreciate the help

thanks, Seth
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Old - October 12th, 2004, 05:04 PM
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There's an ongoing debate over that, and will until the last 3S finally makes its way out of service. Some say a Datalogger is the essential first mod, allows for one to monitor engine-killing knock. Other say BC first, with K&N filter as another good first mod.

Biggest bang for the buck has to be the Boost Controller, but it is also the most dangerous. Too much boost and you can kiss the block goodbye. Also check out the free boost mod, listed on www.vr4stealth.com 'Converys' a first-generation to a second generation as far as boost goes.
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Old - October 12th, 2004, 07:42 PM
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It depends how fast you end up going.

IMHO, BPU mods first and get used to the track strip if you plan to track your car, then go with upgraded fuel and get used to whatever controller you wish to use: S-AFC, E-Manage, EMS, etc.

Go slow and get invested into tuning. I think it's a bad idea for some people to just throw a ton of money and not know how to tune.
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Old - October 12th, 2004, 10:43 PM
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yeah idon't really have that much cash right now so i'm just looking for a good effective way to start tuning.
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Old - October 12th, 2004, 11:24 PM
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MBC, open filter, does not have to be K&N, any open filter will do. Test Pipe. Do the free boost mod as stated above, and vac reduction, although I'm not sure if the reduction helps anything but looks.
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Old - October 13th, 2004, 07:12 AM
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yeah idon't really have that much cash right now so i'm just looking for a good effective way to start tuning.
You need to decide how fast you want to go and make a plan for an effective route. Don't be the guy that just puts random shit on the car. Most of the most effective 3/S guys have a 'good combo'
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Old - October 13th, 2004, 08:19 AM
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It doesn't take much to get these cars moving.

A local member did a dyno run of over 350 awhp with simple mods.

K&N FIPK
Boost controller
Exhaust
lightweight pulley
lightweight flywheel
CFDS

No fuel controller and stock turbochargers.
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Old - October 13th, 2004, 08:28 AM
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It doesn't take much to get these cars moving.

A local member did a dyno run of over 350 awhp with simple mods.

K&N FIPK
Boost controller
Exhaust
lightweight pulley
lightweight flywheel
CFDS

No fuel controller and stock turbochargers.
But the CFDS is the cost of turbochargers?
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Old - October 13th, 2004, 08:56 AM
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with little on no money I would do as others have said


open element air filter
test pipe
boost & A/F gauge
MBC

that will give your car a really good kick in the pants for little money's hell drove mine like that for two years before I got the mod bug to go furthur
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Old - October 13th, 2004, 09:34 AM
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that is the exact order that I did my mods.

FIPK - 150.00
Gutted my main cat - free
MBC WITH boost gauge and AFM (Do NOT do boost controller without these) - 15.00+50.00+70.00=135.00
Gutted precats - free
Total starter mods = 285.00

I also bought a datalogger at the same time I did my boost controller. The most important thing is to ALWAYS err on the side of caution and make sure you have the ability to see what is happening with your motor when you do these modifications. The gauges should suffice if you don't have the bones to drop for a datalogger...but you should definitely get one.
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Old - October 13th, 2004, 09:43 AM
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$150 on an intake?
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Old - October 13th, 2004, 10:00 AM
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$150 on an intake?
K and N FIPK

that's with a deal...pretty standard price for a pretty common intake
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Old - October 13th, 2004, 10:05 AM
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K and N FIPK

that's with a deal...pretty standard price for a pretty common intake
I paid $160 + $15 S/H for the FIPK.

I thought it was going to be discontinued though or is that the DSM version which costs ~$80 and is larger then the CARB legal 3000GT FIPK. One of the two was going to be discontinued.
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Old - October 13th, 2004, 10:14 AM
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My 9" K&N Z06 intake was $40.
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Old - October 13th, 2004, 10:20 AM
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My 9" K&N Z06 intake was $40.
CARB Legal?

For a Vette K&N has a CARB kits that are $339.95

K-N-57-3020 K&N Fuel Injection Performance Kit 1997-2000 C5 Corvette 339.95
K-N-57-3035 K&N Fuel Injection Performance Kit 2001-2003 C5 Corvette Exc. Z06 339.95
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