Z06 or Viper

[Racer 007]

Which would you rather have and why.

I pick the Z06. I have always loved the Corvette and the look just gets me going.

I know the Viper has more power and a lot of go faster stuff, but the look just doesn't do it for me.

[The Lurker]

Viper just cuz

[detpac]

I like the ride and handleing of the Z06. Feels almost like a luxury car. The Viper was too stiff. The Z06 had more creature comforts also.

[sprung_monkey]

z06 all the way.....i grew up in a vette family hell my dad brought me home from the hospital in a 71 vette conv when i was born :D mom had a 76 red t-top in mint cond plus a few more but i'll have to ask him what they had

[Racer 007]

Comparing the two, dollar for dollar.

Z06
$50,430 Base Price
405 Max HP
400 ft-lb Torque
12.85@114.36
$124.51 per HP

Viper SRT-10
$79,995 Base Price
500 Max HP
525 ft-lb Torque
12.37@117.21
$159.99 per HP

You are only gaining .48 on your ET and 2.85 MPH on your traps. Those gains are costing you almost $30,000 more. Hell, for a third of that additional cost, you could easily mod the Z06 to be a all day Viper Eater.

Plus, you won't have to deal with the excessive cockpit heat everytime you drive.

[The Lurker]

I like the more exotic look of the Viper and the fact that you see dozens of Corvettes daily they might not be the Z06 but the look is the same.

[Racer 007]

What, only 4 votes?

[DJ Eric P.]

I picked the Viper since there are way less of them out there, but if I was a rich SOB I'd take two of each please.

[ADLER]

Chose Viper. it was almost a draw between the two, but it just came down to the viper being more rare, and if you see a viper you go "oooh, look a viper" but if you see a z06, you go "a vette" unless you know what you are looking for.

[imp pwr online]

Viper, Cmon...

How many vettes you see around...EVERYWHERE

Vipers? No where

[detpac]

I just added the 2003 Mustang Cobra. High 11's stock.

[3kGTSL]

Viper.. Cuz .. DUDE.. its a VIPER!

[3kgtvr-4me]

i picked the mustang because it is the best car out there;) i love the looks, the power, and the all the diff mods out there for it...but my main reason is......

FORDS RULE!!!!:D

[BAdAzZV8]

Viper, although I am a vette fan. If I had my way I'd have both though.

[detpac]

Originally posted by BAdAzZV8
Viper, although I am a vette fan. If I had my way I'd have both though.

I agree.

[Mopar6498]

i am a die hard mopar guy so of course im going with the viper. i fell in love with the viper in 1996 with the gts and have loved it since then. the 2004 competition coupe will dominate le mans an so on

[Mopar6498]

Im completly mopar on this descion. VIper all the way. the Viper and stealth are my fav cars in the world no matter wat. The viper has been dominate in lemans and the stealth on the streets. Now the DCX has part of mits the legacy can continue if dodge and mits. decide to build the stealth and 3000 gt again( i hope)

[CamaroZL1]

The Vette is best in my opinion. The new corvette ZO6 will have 500 hp and weight 200 pounds less then the viper. The viper will be no match. Plus the corvette has dominated Le Mans, and will continue to because the C5-r gets better every year.

[last_in_line]

viper viper viper

[CamaroZL1]

Vette Vette Vette

[rotaryguy525e]

bridge ported 20B t87 third gen RX7 :D

[Shawn96VR-4]

Originally posted by rotaryguy525e
bridge ported 20B t87 third gen RX7 :D

Good luck finding one that runs.

:rolleyes:

[matt sherman]

03 cobra.

Matt

[Shawn96VR-4]

Originally posted by matt sherman
03 cobra.

Matt

03 Cobra sherman??

[Tool Man]

I know it's an old thread, but, Viper. I was always a Vette person growing up, I owned a 71 and a 83, but the Viper is just the shit. :D

[Lucifer]

Vette Vette Vette

You're a moron, glad you never posted again.


Viper for the win.

[mehrshadvr4]

i have always loved vipers.

[Danin Re']

Well... since the thread's already been brought back.....

Any of the three would do me good, but mustangs and vettes are a dime a dozen around here. As stated in the other poll about the daily driver, gotta stand out from everything else.

[Shawn96VR-4]

Vipers look like big clown shoes. :)

[stealthawd]

Vipers look like big clown shoes. :)

buahahahaha...agreed 100%

[Danin Re']

I also agree... lol.

[cddnomovrfo]

Vipers look like big clown shoes. :)

But the clowns are driving the Vettes.

[stealthawd]

But the clowns are driving the Vettes.

so a vette will carry TWO vipers? interesting way of looking at it...

[Lucifer]

Vettes are junk. All the new C6s have been recalled because their roofs tear off. Give me a break.

[stealthawd]

and Vipers catch on fire...

[Lucifer]

That was fixxed years ago. It was the powersteering cap popping off from the huge torque of the engine and spilling on the headers.

Vettes share their interior with the $17k Cobalt.

[stealthawd]

the "all American" viper shares it's mirrors with a Japanese car

"American designed, American built"...with Japanese designed and manufactured parts. way to go lazy Americans...take someone else's work and call it your own...

[Lucifer]

the "all American" viper shares it's mirrors with a Japanese car

"American designed, American built"...with Japanese designed and manufactured parts. way to go lazy Americans...take someone else's work and call it your own...

True. The Vette's engine was designed by drunk inbreds, the Vipers was built by Lambo. The new '08 engine is coming from McLaren.

[Lucifer]

C6 Vette's brakes explode from leaking lines. The number of TSBs for the Vette outnumbers the Viper 20:1.

[stealthawd]

the viper also has shitty wiring causing the lights to flicker or just short out altogether. can't forget that faulty fuel pump wiring problem that will just shut the car off losing all power steering, brakes etc...

nothing like having your lights shut off and the engine shut down doing 100+ mph at night...

[Lucifer]

the viper also has shitty wiring causing the lights to flicker or just short out altogether. can't forget that faulty fuel pump wiring problem that will just shut the car off losing all power steering, brakes etc...

nothing like having your lights shut off and the engine shut down doing 100+ mph at night...

Rather it be a short than Chevy's great Vette TSB for fracturing power steering pumps.

Nothing like having your power steering pump crack in half as your roof tears off and your brakes explode while doing 100+ mph.

[stealthawd]

so Dodge can't even make their own shit work right so it HAS to be farmed out of country? why not just cancel the damn thing and come out with a Dodge version of something else...they had to do that with the stealth just to compete in that market. then along comes the viper and they couldn't sell the damn things so they nixxed the stealth so that would be their only sports car...

[stealthawd]

and didn't the viper just have a brake recall? seems they have a brake fluid leaking issue as well...

[Lucifer]

The Viper is the only true American sports car per the defenition of a sports car. Even the Brits will tell you that.

Z06 has been recalled now too. Seems the flywheel and clutch have some interferance issues.

[stealthawd]

and since you brought up steering problems...IIRC, the viper had a recall on the rack and pinion...

it seems like the steering rack mounts were coming loose from the frame causing an uncontrollable crash...

[Lucifer]

and didn't the viper just have a brake recall? seems they have a brake fluid leaking issue as well...

False, Vipers have never had any issues with their brakes.

[stealthawd]

also, the welds on the rear diff of the viper seem to be cracking and breaking...not something I would want to happen in my "true american sports car" while I am taking it up to speed...

[Lucifer]

Wonder how the Vette guys like the TSB for the clutch pedel not returning at high RPM and the engine revving to redline untill the car is shut off.

[stealthawd]

False, Vipers have never had any issues with their brakes.

WRONG! 1992 and 2001 both had recalls issued for faulty brakes due to leaking master cylinders.

[Lucifer]

Then there's the driveshaft being so out of balance per Chevy quality control that during normal driving the vibration has snapped the yokes clean off.

[stealthawd]

Then there's the driveshaft being so out of balance per Chevy quality control that during normal driving the vibration has snapped the yokes clean off.

that's not out of balance, that's RAW POWER BABY!!! hahaha

[Lucifer]

WRONG! 1992 and 2001 both had recalls issued for faulty brakes due to leaking master cylinders.


Funny, per Dodge's site, the only recall on the 2001 Viper was that child seats could not be strapped in safely.

[Lucifer]

that's not out of balance, that's RAW POWER BABY!!! hahaha

With what, only 345lbft of torque? :hiFU:

That little torque and all of the Vette's driver's aids wouldn't allow it to do jack shit.

[stealthawd]

I also like the viper recall where the airbags inadvertantly deploy while driving...that's fantastic

[Lucifer]

Here's a new recall of the C6, the auto tranny locks up at speed and leaks it's DEXRON.

:twirl: @ auto tranny in a sports car.

[stealthawd]

I guess the scariest part about the viper's recalls is that they go on unchanged for years at a time. almost like they don't think the rack mounting points breaking while driving is a serious issue...

Dodge is NOTORIOUS for trying to sweep their recalls under the rug...

[Lucifer]

How about the one where the windshields are now falling out. Seems Chevy forgot to glue the windshield to the A-pillars. Oh drat!!

[stealthawd]

and we were able to fill an entire page with just the two of us going back and forth and that kicks ass...

honestly, everyone keeps pegging me as a "vette" guy and "anti-viper"...truth be known, I would probably take either car if the price was right...and truth be known that if I could afford to buy either one outright new from a dealer, I would buy something else that is much cooler and a hell of a lot nicer...

I would rather have a used Ferarri than either one brand new

[Lucifer]

Yet another Chevy quality control issue. They didn't torque the rear drive shafts correctly so now they're falling out while at speed.

[stealthawd]

How about the one where the windshields are now falling out. Seems Chevy forgot to glue the windshield to the A-pillars. Oh drat!!

Yet another Chevy qulity control issue. They didn't torque the rear drive shafts correctly so now they're falling out while at speed.

those were misplaced chrysler workers after their plant got shut down LOL

[Lucifer]

Yet another Chevy quality control issue. They didn't torque the rear drive shafts correctly so now they're falling out while at speed.


Another torque issue. Chevy recalled the C6 Vettes because the front ball joints were exploding from being over torqued.

[Lucifer]

HAHAHAAHA!!! Chevy had to issue a TSB after many C6 Z06 owners complained that they couldn't take the cars into automatic car washes due to the wide rear tires.

How fucking dumb do you get?

Car Wash TSB:
The Z06 may not fit on some car washes due to the use of wider tires (rear tires are 13.6 inches, 325 mm, on 12-inch wheels). An information hang tag is included on the gearshift lever.

Source: GM Techlink

So now all Z06s sold have a notice on the gearshift saying that the car can't go in car washes. LAME!! Vette owners are just plain old midlife crisis morons.

[stealthawd]

Another torque issue. Chevy recalled the C6 Vettes because the front ball joints were exploding from being over torqued.

...but the summation of the applied torque to the whole car assembly was there, it was just divided up incorrectly :D

[Lucifer]

...but the summation of the applied torque to the whole car assembly was there, it was just divided up incorrectly :D


So by this logic lets say that the total torque specs added together for the car should equal ~30,000lbs. As long as that total is achevied, who cares where it was placed? Sounds like Chevy.

[TTAngel]

LAME!! Vette owners are just plain old midlife crisis morons.
Yes.

[stealthawd]

So by this logic lets say that the total torque specs added together for the car should equal ~30,000lbs. As long as that total is achevied, who cares where it was placed? Sounds like Chevy.

yup...but more so than "sounds like chevy"...sounds like American labor

[Lucifer]

yup...but more so than "sounds like chevy"...sounds like American labor

Sad but true. :french:

[Davidmitsusrock]

old topic but deffinately the viper! its jsut so prettyfull and fast

[Lucifer]

old topic but deffinately the viper! its jsut so prettyfull and fast


"Prettyfull" :h-scratch

There's a new one.

[Davidmitsusrock]

lol sorry went out with this chick for 6 months and she said that alot

[cddnomovrfo]

Luci,

I can't believe you didn't bring up Vette's cup holder.
Another "must have" in a true sports car.
Goes nicely with the atx. :gay:

[mehrshadvr4]

i don't know how many time the vett owner should go to dealer for recall.lol that's the 2nd time i belive.one for that roof that came off.

[Lucifer]

Keith, a new TSB for your oh so well built Vette.

This time around, if the car crashes at a high rate of speed, the battery explodes and sends the electrical system into lock down. The doors seal shut because the locks can not be opened.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1466/img0069qe7.jpg

Oops.

[Davidmitsusrock]

lol talk about a horrible fate. :shocked:

[mehrshadvr4]

Keith, a new TSB for your oh so well built Vette.

This time around, if the car crashes at a high rate of speed, the battery explodes and sends the electrical system into lock down. The doors seal shut because the locks can not be opened.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1466/img0069qe7.jpg

Oops.

damn.the whole car is melted. lol

[cddnomovrfo]

Same thing happens if you leave a plastic bowl in the microwave too long. :lame:

[vr4rieders]

into my old VR.
Far cheaper in long run... AWD, Style, and value will eventually increase unlike either option above. For lots of years to come anyway :nodder:
:arcade:

[Henessey]

Well most of the people that buy theese things dont use them for what its for anyhow. Most of the z06s you will see are hidden the garages and never roared. Id take a viper because of its name. If i wanted a faster car id rather build one anyhow.

[Lucifer]

Z06 are a dime a dozen. We have at least 10 C6 Z06s & ~40 C5 Z06s in town and maybe 3 Vipers.

If you want the fastest car on the street, buy a Viper and send it to Heffner Performance.

/Thread

[VeeRFour05]

I'm interested to see how Sound Performance's 2 new cars turn out, TT Viper (made 1200whp on it's low boost run) and their Twin Procharged C6 Z06

[Lucifer]

I'm interested to see how Sound Performance's 2 new cars turn out, TT Viper (made 1200whp on it's low boost run) and their Twin Procharged C6 Z06

No one will match Heffner's fit and finish, nor his track times. Their system is already proven to produce just shy of 2000rwhp. :drive:

[whitedragon]

Heffner TT Ford GT for the win!

It says, I'm more rich then you ho, because this car would be my daily driver! The toys are all in the private underground garage complex!

[VeeRFour05]

No one will match Heffner's fit and finish, nor his track times. Their system is already proven to produce just shy of 2000rwhp. :drive:

I'm not saying they will, I just like to see them seeing as how I'll probably never see a Heffner in real life but SP is just down the block from me

[Lucifer]

Heffner TT Ford GT for the win!

It says, I'm more rich then you ho, because this car would be my daily driver! The toys are all in the private underground garage complex!

IMV Films just put out a 20 minute film about Joe's GT TT. That car is so over hyped, he has already lost to turbo Busas. Gary Javo's small boost Heff Viper destroyed a turbo Busa with no issues and Big Red (http://www.garyjavo.com/wfscgallerytheengine.htm) is well under way.

[Henessey]

Honestley as overused as this is, id stick to my bread and butter 2jz as rar as highway monster.(just my opinon)
But Lingenfelter has just begun to dip into c6 z06 power. They already got the c5 z06 to run into the 8s. I know this because a good friend of mine owns a black c6 Z06 and he is concidering Lingenfelter, but he dosent want it supercharged.

[Lucifer]

With todays players, the Poopra gets owned on the highway.

[cddnomovrfo]

I like this pic... :thumbsup4

http://www.garyjavo.com/wfsc/images/dropoff/9.JPG

[mehrshadvr4]

Honestley as overused as this is, id stick to my bread and butter 2jz as rar as highway monster.(just my opinon)
But Lingenfelter has just begun to dip into c6 z06 power. They already got the c5 z06 to run into the 8s. I know this because a good friend of mine owns a black c6 Z06 and he is concidering Lingenfelter, but he dosent want it supercharged.

the c6 zo6s engines are week for spray or turbo or super charge.

[Shawn96VR-4]

the c6 zo6s engines are week for spray or turbo or super charge.

Your right. No one is spraying that motor.

[Henessey]

a new ls7 shortblock alone is ~15k i wouldnt spray either.

[superinflamo]

All i gotta say is

TWIN TURBO + SUPERCHARGED + SPRAYED PAGANI ZONDA

hp you ask? 1857 RWHP!!!!!!

thank you and goodbye!

:)

:bowdown:

daniel

[Lucifer]

All i gotta say is

TWIN TURBO + SUPERCHARGED + SPRAYED PAGANI ZONDA

hp you ask? 1857 RWHP!!!!!!

thank you and goodbye!

:)

:bowdown:

daniel

Let's see pics of this TT SC Zonda.

No Zonda F, no care.

1725rwhp Viper (http://www.svspower.com/images/upload/video_54_0.wmv) which is now pushing close to 2000rwhp.

Same car running a standing mile with 500 fewer rwhp at 219mph. (http://www.svspower.com/images/upload/video_64_0.wmv) It takes a stock C6 Z06 3 miles to reach 200mph.

[bman3000gt]

Z06 all the way... According to top speed, the vette has not only more power, but the price difference makes it worth the while... Vipers are awesome, but no matter if your driving a Z06 or a viper, people are going to wish they were you... to save almost 30K, I definitely go w/ the Z06 vette!

[Shawn96VR-4]

Top speed isn't all based on power.

[Lucifer]

Z06 all the way... According to top speed, the vette has not only more power, but the price difference makes it worth the while... Vipers are awesome, but no matter if your driving a Z06 or a viper, people are going to wish they were you... to save almost 30K, I definitely go w/ the Z06 vette!


:LMFAO: :LMFAO: :LMFAO:


Hmmm.....Even if comparing the C6 Z06 to the Viper (When this poll was made it was still the 405hp C5 Z06 vs Viper), the Viper still has more horsepower and torque. 510 > 505.

The current Viper coupe is 1 second slower around the Ring and from everything I've read, the Viper is much easier to drive at the limit. There's no need for pussy ass torque management, traction control, braking assist, steering assist, HUD, etc. on a real sports car.

So, if you want to compare the new C6 to the Viper, guess we should throw in the new 2008 SRT-10 Coupe that the McLaren F1 team is designing the drivetrain and suspension for. For the record, McLaren F1 > Mr. Goodwrench in the auto racing world.

Last time I checked, there was only a $7,000 price difference between the Viper Coupe and the C6 Z06. Where the fuck is this $30,000 price difference? If I'm in the market for this kind of vehicle, I don't care about $7,000. I'd pay that just so I don't see the same car as mine on every corner. :freak: 1,500 Vipers a year compared to 35,000 Vettes.

Let's not forget all the great TSBs for the Vette, owners better watch out for the roof tearing off at speed and the doors electronicly sealing shut in a crash.

Last point, resale. Local used car lot has 2 C6 Z06s for sale; $67,000. $10,000 of sticker! Regular C6s are down in the high $30K range already.

[alienviking]

The current Viper coupe is 1 second slower around the Ring and from everything I've read, the Viper is much easier to drive at the limit. There's no need for pussy ass torque management, traction control, braking assist, steering assist, HUD, etc. on a real sports car.

Really? Hum I am not a Viper expert by far but have heard it can be tricky to drive actually.. maybe that was the earlier models?

I liked the older Vipers with the side pipes, but I think the newer models lost a bit of their appeal. To me, the car was always about being brute power and scary. Hopefully they will manage to get some of that back.

I personally would choose a Z06 because I fell in love with Vettes when I first saw one as a kid.

[Lucifer]

Really? Hum I am not a Viper expert by far but have heard it can be tricky to drive actually.. maybe that was the earlier models?

I liked the older Vipers with the side pipes, but I think the newer models lost a bit of their appeal. To me, the car was always about being brute power and scary. Hopefully they will manage to get some of that back.

I personally would choose a Z06 because I fell in love with Vettes when I first saw one as a kid.

The Viper is still a beast to drive, not to worry, Dodge hasn't added any of the electronic bullshit like Chevy has. It's still a huge V10 with 4 wheels and a windshield.

The artical I read was saying that the Z06 gives no road feedback at the limit, it just lets go and you loose it. The Viper on the other hand just throws more torque at the problem and corrects it.

[VeeRFour05]

a true drivers car, is the vette using fly by wire and steer by wire?

[Celtic]

I don't see how a Mustang fits the bill. Its not even in the SupperCar class. The GT40 is Fords SupperCar. That would fit the bill for all three U.S. SupperCars. The 3000GT is one of Japans SupperCars following after the GTO. And Dodge started making the Viper after they had stoped production of the StealthRTTT. So I picked the Viper, It had a great roll model from the get go, The Stealth!!!

[Lucifer]

What's a "suppercar"? Some kind of Sacrament?

[VeeRFour05]

did that make sense to anybody else?

Vipers were made before the stealth got the axe, cobras aren't super cars, but then again neither are vettes, they're muscle cars, the 3k didn't realy follow after the GTO, it was just the american name for it, it's the Ford GT, not the GT40, and like luci said, wtf is a "suppercar"

[alienviking]

The car version of animal crackers?

Anyhow, I personally would not consider the Vette or the Viper supercars. I kind of equal "supercar" with "exotic". I know others think otherwise though..

[Celtic]

What's a "suppercar"? Some kind of Sacrament?
If you say so! I gess it could be a sacrament among all production cars that can proficintly produce high testing responce under all conditions set forth by the Worlds road racing standards. 0-60 Time,Top speed, Braking, Corse Time under all conditions wet and dry. A lot of Cars can be made to produce near the same with mods. But a Suppercar is one that can perform right out of production. Add mods to it as well...Then you have Supperbeast!!! Mustangs are nice cars but handle very poor under wet conditions. But thay make nice drift cars and are being used alot more in that class now. The GT40 will grip tight so will the Ford Pantera. Both are Suppercars. It all boils down to what type of race you want to run! There is more to racing than just a 1/4 mile.

[Lucifer]

If you say so! I gess it could be a sacrament among all production cars that can proficintly produce high testing responce under all conditions set forth by the Worlds road racing standards. 0-60 Time,Top speed, Braking, Corse Time under all conditions wet and dry. A lot of Cars can be made to produce near the same with mods. But a Suppercar is one that can perform right out of production. Add mods to it as well...Then you have Supperbeast!!! Mustangs are nice cars but handle very poor under wet conditions. But thay make nice drift cars and are being used alot more in that class now. The GT40 will grip tight so will the Ford Pantera. Both are Suppercars. It all boils down to what type of race you want to run! There is more to racing than just a 1/4 mile.

I'm going to make a guess here, tell me if I'm right; English isn't your first language is it?

I think I know what a supercar is you dolt. No need for your lackluster descriptions of cars (Grip tight? :LMFAO: ) nor your overall plebeian knowledge of said cars.

[Jerggy13]

tupperware, clown shoe, or a POS ford

where is the option to vote for none of the above?

[Lucifer]

tupperware, clown shoe, or a POS ford

where is the option to vote for none of the above?

What would you buy in that price bracket? Only Porsche that falls into it that wouldn't get it's ass handed to it would be a '97 993TT.

[xwire]

let me see.... SOMETHING ELSE!!!