TT conversion really worth it

[sickness111]

I was just wondering in the TT convertion is really worth it for an SL considering the fact that it is a FWD car. I just want more juice out of my car and i cravethe sound of a BOV but im not sure if its even worth it. I know there will be more torque steer, but im just wondring whether the power is even worth it and how much you would be abe to get out of suck a conversion ( tranny switch as well)

[BoostHungry]

very common question...it's based on prefrence, some people have been very succesful with it, take ipo for example (although he did a single turbo). it will take alot of time and money tho. over all it will most certainly be easier and cheaper to simply buy a vr-4 or RT/TT. and you get the added bonus of the AWD.

[sickness111]

Yea but i dont really have the money, I mean i know the engine is going to cost a nice sack of change but is there a lot of stuff that you need to buy besides the engine? Single turbo sounds nice as logn as its one massive one. I just dont feel liek buyign a single turbo kit form IPO for 4000

[ThermoDust]

Yea but i dont really have the money, I mean i know the engine is going to cost a nice sack of change but is there a lot of stuff that you need to buy besides the engine? Single turbo sounds nice as logn as its one massive one. I just dont feel liek buyign a single turbo kit form IPO for 4000
Most good single turbo kits will be up in that price range. Unless you buy from someone who is selling used parts or cheap parts. In which case why even bother to buy them if they are cheap and gonna break... don't our cars break enough w/o adding cheap parts :p

[sickness111]

Yea our cars break a lot actually. Why is that? My car breaks down every couple of weeks it seems, if its not the CV Shaft its the master clutch cylinder or the slave cylinder. Seems liek there is a lot of poor craftsmanship in our cars and thats why im wondering if its even worth swapping out an engine, cuz i dont want it to die on me permanently.

It doesnt seem liek it should be hard swapping out the engine, justa simple drop in and a wireing harness change am i right ?

[BoostHungry]

I have a 92 dodge RT/TT and the only problems i've had were a leaky transfer case (didn't pay a dime for a brand new one) a cracked trans (god i hate dealerships [except for mine]) and a few minor oil leaks which were easy fixes. if you take care of the car there shouldn't be many issues. the reason they break down is because, one: most on the streets are old, mines over 13 years old. and two: many people push them to the limit, modding your car is adding stress and is increasing the chance for something to go wrong.
and back to the turbo conversion, if your using ur existing motor you have to remember that it's diffrent then a turbo motor, it has higher compression and smaller/diffrent injectors. never mind diffrent heads. Tunning is going to be a big expense in the conversion. parts can be difficult and expensive to find at times also.

[TTAngel]

Are you talking about swaping the engine for a VR-4? 'Cause then you'll also need the ecu, and other stuff. If you stick with the N/A motor you'll have higher compression to begin with, and there for your max psi will be limited. prolly around 5~7. just a ball park. Then you'll need fuel and a way to control it, and other stuff also. It's more than a motor and some wires. how do the transmissions hook up?~~

Time? I think that some swaps by guys (on 3si) that know the cars in and out have done the swap in a weekend.

I believe that alot of guys that swapped over to FWD turbos were eating trannys also, unless they got a LSD.

If your pinched for money, you would prolly be better off buying a 1st gen TT. they're pretty reasonable if you look for a while. I don't think that all the FWD TT guys did it cause it was cheap. I think there was an "I love MY CAR feeling" or possibly an "AWD is way to heavy" feeling. That's just what I see, though. and my opinion and 1.29 will get you a cup of coffee.

Have you done many mods to your NA? Maybe you can get enough "cheap" power out of it to keep you happy.

Stuff breaks. These cars aren't young anymore. You need to take more reposibilty. Tell your girl to get a better job to pay for your car, or you'll find one that can support your habbits. ;)

[specialblend]

I keep hearing that you don't have a ton of money laying around...how much do you think it's gonna cost to do a conversion? A new engine is in the range of 2200 to 3500 if you get a decent one. On top of that there is ALWAYS something that goes wrong or not quite as planned, add about 500 - 800 for "in case shit" insurance...

If you're installing it yourself, you're in good shape. If you're not installing it, have you checked out how much that's gonna run you?

Unfortunatly there is no "quick fix" for more power...a lot of options might be quick but they absolutely murder your bank account.

Search autotrader.com for a VR4, you can find a lot of RT/TT's and VR4's for right around 10 grand. Insurance isn't much more than the SL. If you do end up wanting to go this route let me know my best friend works at a Mitsubishi Dealership...that's where I got my VR4.

Either way, good luck

[sickness111]

Well the whole thing is that i have a VR4 engine at my disposal with ecu and tranny, but im wondering whether it would be worth it you know.

[specialblend]

if you have an engine tranny and ecu at your disposal...what's the question? DO IT!

[BoostHungry]

hahaha, yeah i was thinking you were gunna start a project. if you have the engine, ecu and trans, then all your looking at is labor. go for it. are you swapping to awd? I'm not sure whats involved in that.

[sickness111]

no im just goign to swap the engine tranny and trans. I was just worried about wheel hop and it potentially F*ing up my car or suspension etc. I dont want to spend 10g's for a new car when i just bought this one. I just want a little more power out of it which i think the VR-4 will give me . The power gains will be substantial enough to please me. By the way what about the motor mounts, i heard they're placed in different places for the VR-4 engine? is there a sticky on how ot do this ?

[HCProgramr]

The TT and FWD trannies aren't compatible. You either need to do an AWD conversion and use the TT transmission or keep it FWD and use the FWD transmission. Running an AWD transmission as a FWD will destroy the center differential, and the car may possibly never move. As far as I know, they will bolt to the same block, but don't rely on me for that. Anybody with more experience in that department willing to step in?

[chewedtoothpick]

If you have an AWD tranny and don't want to go that route, I might purchase it from you so I can do an AWD conversion on my car.

[sickness111]

ill let u know.. I might do the same in the future chewy

[Shawn96VR-4]

Is it worth it? It depends on what you want. For the money, it's a big gain but you deal with alot of traction issues and the FWD tranny sucks ass. Also, there's been a lot of issues trying to tune it. A local guy runs ridiculous amounts of timing and cannot get a solid tune out of it. Not my thing at all, but for a roll, it's a good investment if it's done right.

[sickness111]

well the thing is that with that engine you have to buy the TT exhuast and other parts in order to get some gains out of it

[TTAngel]

straight pipe it from the turbos back. :thumbsup4

Any project that you are modifing from stock will have hidden expenses. Do you want a FWD turbo, or do you think it would be best to save for a while and just buy a nice AWD TT later? A good start could be had from selling the engine to someone who wants to do the TT swap.

I think that's the question that you should ask yourself.

[sickness111]

i dont think saving will help, im 17 and dont have enough income to buy a new car for 11,000 $

[TTAngel]

Don't forget insurance... and up-keep. These cars are like wives. Everyone can afford to get one, but not everone can afford to keep one.

[sickness111]

im just wondering what i report to the isurance company if i do this conversion.. or if i have to. I dont have to worry about insurance.. under my dads name its 450 for half a year right now for my SL

[Shawn96VR-4]

well the thing is that with that engine you have to buy the TT exhuast and other parts in order to get some gains out of it

What engine? Both engines are fine with the stock catback.

[sickness111]

I meant that when you have allready swapped for a TT engine, puting a TT exhaust system will give u bigger gains than a N/A pipe

[yamma9922]

i gota a 92 3000gt n i was waongering what else i need in order to make it complete...


i already have the 6g72tt engine but what else do i need

any info will help me :)