Kevin Williams (Mykiss69)

[chewedtoothpick]

Just so you know, it is illegal to sell a business that has outstanding work-orders without offering a refund or informing those customers before the sale goes public.

Now, you have had my car almost SIX months, and have had COMPLETE payment and then some to repair my car for even longer.

I am just posting this because I am tired of your crap, and want it to be publicly known that (as I warned you somewhere around the 8th of November) I will be suing you and putting a lien on your property and business as of the 17th of this month.

So, here is the deal: Get my car done. I don't want to hear about you working on other vehicles unless it is putting finishing touches on that car which has been there over a year. I don't want to hear about you doing recreational activities. I don't care if you do it, but if you do not have my car completely done by the 17th of this month, I am suing you for failure to deliver on a pre-paid service. Because it is across state lines and the value of the service is in excess of $1500, it is a felony for your information. And just to make sure that you don’t sabotage my car out of spite, I expect you to guarantee your work at your expense for at least a year from the date that I have the car in my possession again.

So - here are your options: Get my car done (and warranty your work) by the 17th.

-Or-

I sue you for the original $2300 which I have paid you to fix my car,
Plus the $135 I gave you for a new OEM clutch,
Plus the $775 I paid to have my car shipped there,
Plus $+-775 to ship my car back (ALL ORIGINAL PARTS INCLUDED,)
Plus $115 since I bought you that engine harness that you needed,
Plus Lawyer fees,
Plus whatever is fair for the trouble you have caused me.

I am thoroughly frustrated, and your "We'll see if I can get it done" attitude you are giving me while working on other orders does not help your case at all.

For those of you who want it, here is the story:

Back in February (which is the worst time of year for me financially) the automatic transmission on my Stealth went out. I posted looking for information on a manual conversion because I don't particularly like ATX's to begin with. Kevin contacted me saying he had the parts for $1300 or something like that, or would do the entire service for $2300. I looked around and tried to get a local shop I could trust to do the swap, since my normal mechanic is part of the reason my transmission went out (He did the 90k and didn't tell me that the transmission was leaking until it had run dry on my way home from work when it wouldn't get into gear.) Since none would touch it for less than ~ $1700 in labor, I agreed to send my car to him. He told me a few times that it would take about 2 weeks to do the work, so I prepared to be without my car for around a month after shipping and everything. Since it was such a bad time for me financially, I sent him a $400 (plus $40 pay pal fees) deposit at the end of February and told him that I would keep in contact with him as I got the rest of the money together. It took me until May to get the money together amongst some major issues I had to deal with...

I sent him the money at the end of May / beginning of June upfront in cashier's check from my bank, and I shipped him my car at the middle of June. Come July I had heard VERY little - maybe one or two PMs from him, and was beginning to get peeved. He gave me the excuse of having to finish on a VR 4 rebuild that was jacking him around over engine mounts. I was sympathetic to his plight and tried to be as patient as possible. I told him how I had to have my car in time to make my classes at DVC in Concord at the end of August, and he started the whole “I will do my best to get it done” bullshit. In September, he got a new shop and moved my car in there, beginning work by October... I know he was working on it by October, because I have picture proof by the 10th of October when he had already taken most of the interior apart to begin the swap. I was getting rather impatient, but I was trying to be as nice as possible.

Come the beginning of November, I was getting REALLY peeved because he was making very slow progress and working on new business by then, instead of completing his old business. I sent him a letter explaining that I was getting tired, and gave him a deadline of the 17th. I gave him that deadline because I absolutely have to have my car by the 23rd of this month. I have a flight to make, and I cannot take a shuttle or get a ride there because of work deadlines on that same day. What is more, is that I have almost lost my job twice because I do not have transportation to get to job sites which I am required to, and I am close to losing it as we speak because I cannot visit job-sites and have enough trouble just getting to work with the unreliable transportation and lack of public transportation that I am suffering right now.

Back to the story… So, in response to that letter, he says that he needs an engine harness for my car since it is California-Specification emissions, and he only has harnesses for Federal-Specification. He says the only difference is that my cruise control will not work if he uses the Federal-Specification, and I tell him that is okay as long as I get my car back on time. I tried to be patient and lenient, so I let him ‘Take care of it’ on his own as he said he would. Well, when I contacted him just after Thanksgiving, he had made no progress at all other than finding the harness and he says the he has to come up with the money to buy it. After a good deal of hesitation, I offer to pay for the harness to speed things up. I bought it off of Zumin3k (he is a GREAT guy by the way!) for $115 after over-night shipping, and Kevin had the part on the 4th.

Well, I have been trying to call Kevin since Thursday to get an update, I sent him a PM Friday, and he is not answering or anything… It has been a month since I warned Kevin of his upcoming deadline, so this post is not out of place according to the 3si rules. I know I have made quite a public stink already over this, but I know that Kevin does not completely realize how truly aggravated I am and how adversely this has affected me.

I know that I have been more than fair to Kevin in this matter. I have been as patient as I can. I did not want to make this post, but I need to so that he can understand how serious I am. Anyone who reads this: Am I out of line? When I sent him the original deadline, he acted as If I was the bad-guy… Am I? If I am, which I seriously doubt, HOW am I?

I really don’t want to have to spend the considerable time and money to sue you Kevin, but I will. You have had more than enough time, and your “I will do what I can attitude” is not what I paid for.

I hope you can now understand my side. I want you to get the work done… I was hoping to post some positive feedback for you when we were done… I want to have my car running perfectly on your work, and meet you in person at NG or some event like that… I had hoped that this could work out so that I could be glad to have dealt with you; but KEVIN has failed.

[stealthawd]

man...good luck to you. I wish there was something the group could do to help other than listen. seriously, good luck.

[detpac]

Good luck.

Keep all correspondance. I went through something like this a while back with polished parts. I spoke to my attorney and he told me that the correspondance is what would make the case. Especially on a public forum.

We solved it out of court but it took my attorney sending a letter to deliver the goods or that all costs would be sought.

Good luck again.

[chewedtoothpick]

I have every email and PM about it saved, I will be printing the book ( ~150 pages total) tomorrow, as well as printing every public post on both forums that either of him or I have made.

EDIT - Thanks for your support guys. :)

[chewedtoothpick]

UPDATE Already

Okay, so I talked to him just now while I was running to grab some lunch... He said that he is working on it right now, and is trying to make the California-spec harness work. I told him that if he has to disable cruise control to get my car done by the 17th, then that is okay.

I am going to leave this up so everyone can see the seriousness of this situation, but Kevin; I hope you know that I am not trying to be a jerk or anything, I just cannot wait any longer, and I was upset that I hadn't heard from you when I had been calling you since Thursday.

Thanks, and for now, my hostilities are somewhat neutral.

[stealthawd]

not criticizing, just observing.

you keep getting pissed off cuz you don't hear anything. then, you get some contact and it is always "working on it now". then, you are calmed down again...

...wait a long time and still nothing. then you get pissed again and get another response of "working on it now".

my .02 (not that it means anything) is to stay mad. quit getting pacified by "working on it now". there is no reason that if he is "working on it now", you shouldn't be able to go pick up the car on the 17th. i could do more than convert my tranny in a week, much less 6 months. think of it with work hours in mind...8 hours per day for six months=@1440 hours. more than enough time to get the job done. hell, two more hours and it would have been in StL...there are plenty of competent 3/s people in the StL area that could have conquered this task MONTHS ago.

once again...not bashing, just an observation of how it just keeps going from pissed to pacified and back to pissed again. as long as he can pacify you, you aren't critical anymore...FWICT

[chewedtoothpick]

not criticizing, just observing.

you keep getting pissed off cuz you don't hear anything. then, you get some contact and it is always "working on it now". then, you are calmed down again...

...wait a long time and still nothing. then you get pissed again and get another response of "working on it now".

my .02 (not that it means anything) is to stay mad. quit getting pacified by "working on it now". there is no reason that if he is "working on it now", you shouldn't be able to go pick up the car on the 17th. i could do more than convert my tranny in a week, much less 6 months. think of it with work hours in mind...8 hours per day for six months=@1440 hours. more than enough time to get the job done. hell, two more hours and it would have been in StL...there are plenty of competent 3/s people in the StL area that could have conquered this task MONTHS ago.

once again...not bashing, just an observation of how it just keeps going from pissed to pacified and back to pissed again. as long as he can pacify you, you aren't critical anymore...FWICT
I am no less peeved than I was earlier... The reason why I 'cool my jets' or even get a little pacified is because I am trying to be understanding of his side...

I know there is no reason for me to be nice at this point, but it is worth the extra irritation and inconvenience to have him do it right...

But I am not going to be any more patient, and the deadline will stand. I cannot afford any more patience.

[BoostHungry]

damn that firts post must have taken you a long ass time. seems like you've got everything under control. u set the bottom line and its up to him which action is gunna be taken. and good idea with the warranty, that was my concearn earlier. sounds like u did alot of research. good luck with everything.

[Tool Man]

Well, you've been very patient, hopefully things will turn your way now.

[chewedtoothpick]

thanks for letting everyone know that i have not had computer access since thursday and have not been avoiding you.i explained to you on the phoner today that my computer has been down since thursday and i have not been able to check emails or get on the computer at all.threating me will get you no where.i am doing everything i can do to get your car done.i cannot and will not warranty some thing i cannot warranty.i have had alot of personal problems that have not allowed me to be at the shop and work on the things i have to finish up.i know that isnt your problem.like i have told you on the phone and in emails.i will do the best i can to finish your car before or by the 17th.sounds to me like it wont matter whether i get it done or not you are still going to try and sue me.by the way i had to drive 60 miles one way tonight just to get on the computer and check my emails and post here on the site.and thanks for telling me about this post today on phone no wonder you was in a hurry to get off the phone.you thought all along i was ignoring your emails and phone calls.


Was his reply on 3si.

To which I replied:

I was in a hurry to get off the phone because I was holding up the line at Safeway during my 30 minute lunch break... And since when does lack of internet access impact phone? I had been trying to call you since THURSDAY.

I am not going to sue you if you get my car done on time. But how much this has cost me, and how adversely this has affected me, I cannot wait any longer.

I am trying to be fair that I haven't already pressed charges against you. And your personal issues didn't stop you from working on other work orders or making me have to be the only one between use to initiate contact.

I am glad that you are working on my car, but I completely doubt you fully understand how greatly you have adversely affected me...

So man-up. I have been more than fair and nice to you and your issues, so why do I have to suffer from them?

http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=246925 is the link there if you want...

[stealthawd]

holy HELL! OK, I live in MO and own an ISP and I can tell you that there is NO reason someone would have to drive 60 miles just to get internet access. hell, walk to the local wal mart and you can get online. that is the biggest friggin' crock...get your money back, your parts back and give one of the StL guys a call like Eric or Von. Eric has the lift at his house and if he can put a 440 in a 3/s, I have no doubt that he can do a tranny conversion.

sorry, not my place...but damn, COME ON!

[chewedtoothpick]

holy HELL! OK, I live in MO and own an ISP and I can tell you that there is NO reason someone would have to drive 60 miles just to get internet access. hell, walk to the local wal mart and you can get online. that is the biggest friggin' crock...get your money back, your parts back and give one of the StL guys a call like Eric or Von. Eric has the lift at his house and if he can put a 440 in a 3/s, I have no doubt that he can do a tranny conversion.

sorry, not my place...but damn, COME ON!

Unfortunately, If I get my money back, I don't have the parts for a swap unless he only rebates me $1000 for the labor. And I am not going to be an asshole and only offer someone good like Eric or Von $1000 for that to be done in 4 days...

I seriously do have to have my car back by the 23rd so that I can make a flight...

[stealthawd]

Unfortunately, If I get my money back, I don't have the parts for a swap unless he only rebates me $1000 for the labor. And I am not going to be an asshole and only offer someone good like Eric or Von $1000 for that to be done in 4 days...

I seriously do have to have my car back by the 23rd so that I can make a flight...

GRRRRR....damn brother...I hope it gets taken care of for you. you have been so damn laid back about it. kudos to you man...

[chewedtoothpick]

Just keeing this updated...

Posted this just now:

Kevin -

Call me. I tried to call you yesterday (14-Dec) and today (15-Dec) so we could talk, but you did not answer. I do not have time to play this phone cat-and-mouse and I need to talk to you. You have my number, but just incase you can't find it it, I will send it to you in a Private Message.

Thank you,

-Alaric

[chewedtoothpick]

Yes, I did live in Mountain Grove, MO while all of this I posted was going on, but I have moved to another town now.....

I am still close enough to take a drive and see, but it will conflict with the felony case that Kevin(mykiss69) just got convicted of assaulting me. I can go by the shop and check, but because of the of the court case, I'd rather let the law deal with him on chewedtoothpick's car.

Yes, it is frustrating to allow the law to deal with it, but I have become much wiser the older I get. If I was 10 years younger, I would have dealt with him with my fists....but age does make you wiser on some issues...........fighting costs you alot of money and maybe your freedom..........been there done that...........
Hey bro, it is all cool...

If I don't talk to him tomorrow I will call the Mountain Grove Police department and ask them to check in on it for me... If he doesn't call me on the 17th, then Monday I will proceed to press charges.

[chewedtoothpick]

Now if only I could remove the thumbs down...

I just talked to Kevin... He says that my car should be done tomorrow. All he has left is to put on the glove box and drop in the engine.

I had an okay conversation with him, but he thinks I am a jerk...

For that Kevin, I am sorry - I had not intended to.

Now I am excited... I may have my car back on time...

[Tool Man]

I'll remove it AFTER you get the car back.

[ThermoDust]

Not to say anything bad about mykiss as I have never delt with him. But i'd bring it to a local shop and have them do a once over just to make sure everything is where it should be.

[detpac]

Now if only I could remove the thumbs down...

I just talked to Kevin... He says that my car should be done tomorrow. All he has left is to put on the glove box and drop in the engine.

I had an okay conversation with him, but he thinks I am a jerk...

For that Kevin, I am sorry - I had not intended to.

Now I am excited... I may have my car back on time...
Drop an engine in, wire it and connect everything in one day? When it has been six months. Sorry, but I really doubt it. I think you just got punked and you were smiling. It was not ready on the 17th. I would start procedings as threatened then drop them once the car was ready. I would also stipulate that money be refunded for the time lost and any attorney's fees paid. I would have my attorney draw up the paperwork.

I do not want this thread deleted. Others need to know about the dealings with this person. If things get better, post another thread. More positives will outweigh the negative.

[Zoodled]

Drop an engine in, wire it and connect everything in one day? When it has been six months. Sorry, but I really doubt it. I think you just got punked and you were smiling. It was not ready on the 17th. I would start procedings as threatened then drop them once the car was ready. I would also stipulate that money be refunded for the time lost and any attorney's fees paid. I would have my attorney draw up the paperwork.

I do not want this thread deleted. Others need to know about the dealings with this person. If things get better, post another thread. More positives will outweigh the negative.
Mega Dittos

3456

[chewedtoothpick]

Drop an engine in, wire it and connect everything in one day? When it has been six months. Sorry, but I really doubt it. I think you just got punked and you were smiling. It was not ready on the 17th. I would start procedings as threatened then drop them once the car was ready. I would also stipulate that money be refunded for the time lost and any attorney's fees paid. I would have my attorney draw up the paperwork.

I do not want this thread deleted. Others need to know about the dealings with this person. If things get better, post another thread. More positives will outweigh the negative.
I have picture proof which I will post when I get home...

[jay91701]

Someone refered this guy to another member in a different thread, why? I personaly think that if someone is known to be a crook, and using the internet forums to steal, it's the forum's job to at least stop this person from using the forum and to post a warnning to potential victoms. Maybe someone should look into the case, with Leslie Willson,that was judged against him, and if it turns out to be legit, he should deffinately be removed from this forum or at least have a permanant warning put in his sig. by the mods. Just an idea... J


Oh, and a six month turn-a-round...PLEASE, your car better come back a Porche. You could have built a new car in that time, chewed, I'm not busting your chops you just realy need to make sure this guy makes good on what he's done. Also if you find yourself in possesion of 17 3000GT parts cars, keep US3S in mind. Good Luck!!

[chewedtoothpick]

I have picture proof which I will post when I get home...
http://www.fastnorcal.com/personal/mycars/17dec/dec17.htm

Pictures I received today...

They were earlier in the day, so I hope that he is done by now...

[Own a VR4]

I don't think it is fair at all how he dicks you around for several months, then the day before your deadline he goes ahead and does a huge amount of work and has the car near completion. Regardless if your car is finished by well...yesterday, I wouldn't remove this thread. It is NOT fair for you to have waited as long as you did. From the posts I have just read, (all three pages) it definitely sounds like this guy does HORRIBLE business.

[chewedtoothpick]

To be fair to him, he said that he gave me his cell phone number back in November when I first warned him, but I haven't had the time to verify that yet (If he did in an email or PM or IM, then I will have it as I log everything.) And he was upset that I posted this before yesterday. I think he thought that I was taking action before the 17th, when I was just trying to express my severe discontent.

As far as throwing it together, I am also a bit worried about that. After talking with him and being satisfied that my car is done, (and after finding out that no transportation company will even pick up my car until after the first) I told him that in my eyes, he had met my deadline. He says that he is going to do some fine-tuning work and adjust the clutch etc so that when I get it back, it will be as perfect as it can be... Then the shipping company will be getting it the first weekend in 2005 and shipping it out with their first Westward transport. Transport companies suck though... the only one that even said they would touch it this year (but they wouldn't get it to me until around the 28th - 31st) wanted $2100 on an open carrier - forget that...

[stealthawd]

dude...I would seriously have someone close to him drive it. Even if him and CFOOSE have issues, he would be your best bet because he is going to be overly critical...as you would. think of this, you pay to get it shipped back and unload it and it wont pull itself up your driveway...now you're really screwed...

to go from nothing to completed in two days after the threat of a lawsuit would worry the hell out of me...on top of the fact that he actually got pissed because you posted shit on here. you have every right to be upset about being lied to and put off. then it's done in two days with no test drive other than his? that's nuts that he would think that was acceptable.

i will talk to some local people and see if anyone wants to take a roadtrip and test drive it for you. thats just really sketchy IMO.

side note, how much is it costing you to ship it and who are you using? I have an ex-employee that is moving to Portland after the holidays and is wanting to ship his rustang out there.

[chewedtoothpick]

dude...I would seriously have someone close to him drive it. Even if him and CFOOSE have issues, he would be your best bet because he is going to be overly critical...as you would. think of this, you pay to get it shipped back and unload it and it wont pull itself up your driveway...now you're really screwed...

to go from nothing to completed in two days after the threat of a lawsuit would worry the hell out of me...on top of the fact that he actually got pissed because you posted shit on here. you have every right to be upset about being lied to and put off. then it's done in two days with no test drive other than his? that's nuts that he would think that was acceptable.

i will talk to some local people and see if anyone wants to take a roadtrip and test drive it for you. thats just really sketchy IMO.

side note, how much is it costing you to ship it and who are you using? I have an ex-employee that is moving to Portland after the holidays and is wanting to ship his rustang out there.

Hillbilly Auto Transport... They are based in some L town near Springfield, and they were far beyond excellent to me when I shipped my car out there. It is costing me $825 or something close to that from their HQ to basically my front door. It only cost me $775 to ship it there, but I shipped it from a hub they deal with to Springfield.

And I would love beyone love to have someone else drive it, but a while ago when I offered money (the thread is in the StL forum) to just check it out, nobody took me up on it...

As to having CFOOSE do it - there are some major issues between him and Kevin, and I am not going to get in the middle of that - I cannot get involved in that liability for many reasons.

[stealthawd]

i'll talk to some of the guys to see if anyone wants to make the roadtrip with me...

do you have a website or contact information on the transporter?

[chewedtoothpick]

Hillbilly Auto Tansport: 417-426-5036

[stealthawd]

Hey...is your car ready to drive? James (jday51) is going to his parent's for Christmas weekend and will be driving within about an hour of Mountain Grove. He may take a quick look for you...

[Zoodled]

wanted $2100 on an open carrier - forget that...

Plane trip and gas back is cheaper. It might be cheaper even if you had to tow the car halfway because of a break down in the mountains.

I miss the 90's when I could get a car towed from Oregon to Wisconsin for $350 door to door.

[detpac]

Plane trip and gas back is cheaper. It might be cheaper even if you had to tow the car halfway because of a break down in the mountains.

I miss the 90's when I could get a car towed from Oregon to Wisconsin for $350 door to door.
I had the Jaguar transported from LA, Cali to El Paso, TX (~1000 Miles) for $400 3 years ago.

[chewedtoothpick]

Hey...is your car ready to drive? James (jday51) is going to his parent's for Christmas weekend and will be driving within about an hour of Mountain Grove. He may take a quick look for you...
It should be...

I will PM Him today after work.

Thanks!

[chewedtoothpick]

Sent a PM to James

[stealthawd]

need to stay on topic which is getting his car done correctly...if it's done, then great...

[Kevin92RT]

need to stay on topic which is getting his car done correctly...if it's done, then great... maybe you need to direct that at CFOOSE

[stealthawd]

if you are that concerned over your reputation...why worry about it now? right the wrong and get the guys car done. refund some money back to him and come out the good guy.

CFOOSE hasn't changed anyone's opinion on the fact that you have had this guy's car WAY longer than you should have.

The topic of the thread is "Kevin Williams (Mykiss69)"...as bad as it stings, it is about you and how you have not got this guys car back to him after plenty of time to get it done. I saw CFOOSE's post in here as a warning to check the car out.

Like I said...just stay on the topic of righting your wrong and get this guy's car done and done correctly. I think he has been WAY more than fair with this whole ordeal and still got shafted.

[chewedtoothpick]

if you are that concerned over your reputation...why worry about it now? right the wrong and get the guys car done. refund some money back to him and come out the good guy.

CFOOSE hasn't changed anyone's opinion on the fact that you have had this guy's car WAY longer than you should have.

The topic of the thread is "Kevin Williams (Mykiss69)"...as bad as it stings, it is about you and how you have not got this guys car back to him after plenty of time to get it done. I saw CFOOSE's post in here as a warning to check the car out.

Like I said...just stay on the topic of righting your wrong and get this guy's car done and done correctly. I think he has been WAY more than fair with this whole ordeal and still got shafted.
Thanks for sticking up for me...

I do not want any money back, as long as the car is done well...

Kevin is being good about everything right now, and my car is done, so I am mostly satisfied...

[detpac]

if you are that concerned over your reputation...why worry about it now? right the wrong and get the guys car done. refund some money back to him and come out the good guy.

CFOOSE hasn't changed anyone's opinion on the fact that you have had this guy's car WAY longer than you should have.

The topic of the thread is "Kevin Williams (Mykiss69)"...as bad as it stings, it is about you and how you have not got this guys car back to him after plenty of time to get it done. I saw CFOOSE's post in here as a warning to check the car out.

Like I said...just stay on the topic of righting your wrong and get this guy's car done and done correctly. I think he has been WAY more than fair with this whole ordeal and still got shafted.
This is what we all want here. The original post was about the car, not CFOOSE. If he lies, so what. He will keep lying.

Is the car done? I would like to see our member get the car done. I would like for him to have a great experience. He so far has not. If you guys are working it out, great. That still does not diminish the whole 6 month ordeal. If you are a good seller/shop, it will show, but right now, we are all wondering how much longer it will take to finish this car of chewed toothpick's. It was to have been done by the 17th. It is now the 21st. How much longer to finish a car that would have been finished if CFOOSE had not lied to the Police?

If you can not get it done, why not jump on the phone at the end of every day and inform the buyer what is going on? A 2 week job is not a 6 month job, and it seems like it is going to take much longer.

I have nothing against you but I would like people to see this. If you recover from this setback, you should be able to win people's respect back.

[xwire]

This is what we all want here. The original post was about the car, not CFOOSE. If he lies, so what. He will keep lying.

Is the car done? I would like to see our member get the car done. I would like for him to have a great experience. He so far has not. If you guys are working it out, great. That still does not diminish the whole 6 month ordeal. If you are a good seller/shop, it will show, but right now, we are all wondering how much longer it will take to finish this car of chewed toothpick's. It was to have been done by the 17th. It is now the 21st. How much longer to finish a car that would have been finished if CFOOSE had not lied to the Police?

If you can not get it done, why not jump on the phone at the end of every day and inform the buyer what is going on? A 2 week job is not a 6 month job, and it seems like it is going to take much longer.

I have nothing against you but I would like people to see this. If you recover from this setback, you should be able to win people's respect back.


very well said

[Kevin92RT]

This is what we all want here. The original post was about the car, not CFOOSE. If he lies, so what. He will keep lying.

Is the car done? I would like to see our member get the car done. I would like for him to have a great experience. He so far has not. If you guys are working it out, great. That still does not diminish the whole 6 month ordeal. If you are a good seller/shop, it will show, but right now, we are all wondering how much longer it will take to finish this car of chewed toothpick's. It was to have been done by the 17th. It is now the 21st. How much longer to finish a car that would have been finished if CFOOSE had not lied to the Police?

If you can not get it done, why not jump on the phone at the end of every day and inform the buyer what is going on? A 2 week job is not a 6 month job, and it seems like it is going to take much longer.

I have nothing against you but I would like people to see this. If you recover from this setback, you should be able to win people's respect back. i guess you cant read .the car is pretty much done.talked to the shipping guy today and i am supposed to be dropping it off sometime next week.and fyi it didnt take 6 months to do the job.

[detpac]

Now, you have had my car almost SIX months, and have had COMPLETE payment and then some to repair my car for even longer.

He told me a few times that it would take about 2 weeks to do the work, so I prepared to be without my car for around a month after shipping and everything. Since it was such a bad time for me financially, I sent him a $400 (plus $40 pay pal fees) deposit at the end of February and told him that I would keep in contact with him as I got the rest of the money together. It took me until May to get the money together amongst some major issues I had to deal with...

I sent him the money at the end of May / beginning of June upfront in cashier's check from my bank, and I shipped him my car at the middle of June.

i guess you cant read .the car is pretty much done.talked to the shipping guy today and i am supposed to be dropping it off sometime next week.and fyi it didnt take 6 months to do the job.

Middle of June to the middle of December is 6 months. I know it didn't take 6 months to do the job, it took 2 weeks. However, you have had the car for 6 months which is the same thing. I can read and did. We have all read this. You just hurt your side by staing that one fact, "It didnt take 6 months to do the job".

You also just stated that "the car is pretty much done". That means that it is not done. Thank you for clearing that up. When will it be FULLY finished?

[Kevin92RT]

need to stay on topic which is getting his car done correctly...if it's done, then great... sounds to me like you are singling me out to stay on topic.i guess CFOOSE gets a execption on that since he has blown so much smoke up your ass.

[stealthawd]

dude...the point is, there are posts on here the WHOLE time how this guy has been waiting for his car. you have ZERO valid reasons why it's not done. you fuc ked off and didn't finish it...and now you are being a smart ass about it. the fact is that you drug your feet on this guys car and it STILL isn't done. if it were me, I would have your ass sitting in court and would own your ass...but he seems to be much nicer than me.

Out of all of the heresay, there are these FACTS:

You got the guys car in June.

You were paid in May.

You were threatened with legal action at least twice before with this car and promised it MONTHS ago. Never came through.

You have been given several deadlines which you have failed to meet each and every one.

Each time you failed to meet a deadline, you came off like a jerk...like you were the victim here.

You were given a deadline of the 17th of December which you missed miserably.

You still don't have the car done. Regardless of how little you have left to do on it, it's not done.

Now, these are FACTS...regardless of excuses or scapegoating your reasons onto other people...these are the facts. CFOOSE didn't stop you from getting it done...the law didn't stop you from getting it done. The only person that stopped you from getting it done is you...no one else.

It is very pathetic that you took this guy's money and just sat on his car for SIX months. I am sure his money is long spent by now which is why his car is no priority for you. IMHO, you are a crook. You took his money and did not come through with your end of the bargain. I'm sure his money is long gone which means that you took his money, spent it and never delivered your goods. This is strictly my speculation...but I know I'm not the only one who sees it that way.

[stealthawd]

sounds to me like you are singling me out to stay on topic.i guess CFOOSE gets a execption on that since he has blown so much smoke up your ass.

YOU have not finished this guys car...PERIOD. There are a million and one people sitting back to see if YOU come through this time. CFOOSE contributed some great information IMO. As soon as the car is finished and working the way it should after SIX MONTHS, I will be more than happy to remove CFOOSE's comments in this thread...but for now, I believe they deserve to stay...

[Kevin92RT]

dude...the point is, there are posts on here the WHOLE time how this guy has been waiting for his car. you have ZERO valid reasons why it's not done. you fuc ked off and didn't finish it...and now you are being a smart ass about it. the fact is that you drug your feet on this guys car and it STILL isn't done. if it were me, I would have your ass sitting in court and would own your ass...but he seems to be much nicer than me.

Out of all of the heresay, there are these FACTS:

You got the guys car in June.

You were paid in May.

You were threatened with legal action at least twice before with this car and promised it MONTHS ago. Never came through.

You have been given several deadlines which you have failed to meet each and every one.

Each time you failed to meet a deadline, you came off like a jerk...like you were the victim here.

You were given a deadline of the 17th of December which you missed miserably.

You still don't have the car done. Regardless of how little you have left to do on it, it's not done.

Now, these are FACTS...regardless of excuses or scapegoating your reasons onto other people...these are the facts. CFOOSE didn't stop you from getting it done...the law didn't stop you from getting it done. The only person that stopped you from getting it done is you...no one else.

It is very pathetic that you took this guy's money and just sat on his car for SIX months. I am sure his money is long spent by now which is why his car is no priority for you. IMHO, you are a crook. You took his money and did not come through with your end of the bargain. I'm sure his money is long gone which means that you took his money, spent it and never delivered your goods. This is strictly my speculation...but I know I'm not the only one who sees it that way. i like how you think you know it all.he gave me a deadline of the 17th.on the 17th his car WOULD have been done.he called me on the 17th and said that the shipping company could not pick the car up till the 1st of the year.i then told him that if i stayed here att he shop for a few more hours i could have it done a running.he told me as far as he was concered i met the deadline.i even sent him pics with my cell phone.we had the problems all worked out.now you come on here and try to start the shit right back up.and honestly its none of your or anyone else on this site's business.we have everyhting worked out just fine.you told everyone today to stay on topic.i dont think CFOOSE post was at all on topic but yet a personal attack on me.which you as a moderator could be sued along with the owner of this site for letting slander be posted.the fact of the matter is me and alaric have this all worked out so drop it.

[Kevin92RT]

YOU have not finished this guys car...PERIOD. There are a million and one people sitting back to see if YOU come through this time. CFOOSE contributed some great information IMO. As soon as the car is finished and working the way it should after SIX MONTHS, I will be more than happy to remove CFOOSE's comments in this thread...but for now, I believe they deserve to stay...
and i am glad you let them stay long enough for me to get them saved and printed off.what he said is lies and slander,you have to have proof and he has 0 proof of anything.he comes accross as a real nice guy but people see past his bullshit.i have a witness that will testify in court and take a polygraph that tim stated on more than one occasion that he was going to do what he could to ruin my life.

[stealthawd]

which you as a moderator could be sued along with the owner of this site for letting slander be posted.the fact of the matter is me and alaric have this all worked out so drop it.

Keith Johnson
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Farmington, MO 63640
xxx-xxx-xxxx

My attorney's name is Joe Goff and his number is 573-76x-xxxx...

I definitely welcome your lawsuit. That has to be the most moronic thing I have ever seen posted. There is in no way shape or form that you could sue myself, the board or any of it's moderators or admins based on statements made by someone else. When it comes to law, the internet and business...you are definitely bluffing the wrong guy. I know it like the back of my hand...nice try though.

Back on topic...this is everyone's business for the simple fact that you are a business and your dealings are public knowledge. It was brought to the attention of the board for help and for all to see.

You ****** up...not me, not CFOOSE, not US3S, not chewedtoothpick...no one else but you. You are the one who is under the gun...no one else. Lash out at whoever you choose to...it's all for naught because you are the one who was and is in the wrong.

[Kevin92RT]

Keith Johnson
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Farmington, MO 63640
xxx-xxx-xxxx

My attorney's name is Joe Goff and his number is 573-76x-xxxx...

I definitely welcome your lawsuit. That has to be the most moronic thing I have ever seen posted. There is in no way shape or form that you could sue myself, the board or any of it's moderators or admins based on statements made by someone else. When it comes to law, the internet and business...you are definitely bluffing the wrong guy. I know it like the back of my hand...nice try though.

Back on topic...this is everyone's business for the simple fact that you are a business and your dealings are public knowledge. It was brought to the attention of the board for help and for all to see.

You ****** up...not me, not CFOOSE, not US3S, not chewedtoothpick...no one else but you. You are the one who is under the gun...no one else. Lash out at whoever you choose to...it's all for naught because you are the one who was and is in the wrong. hey i have no problem with you other than you seem to keep pouring gass on the flame.did you not read my post.i said we had it all worked out.

[Kevin92RT]

so are you saying what CFOOSE is saying is not slander?

[stealthawd]

i said we had it all worked out.

OK...let's reminisce...shall we?

we have talked and everything is set up for the completion of it by the 17th.

This just has crossed the thresh-hold and gone from him taking his time and doing it right to him taking straight-up too long. I could probably understand his side if I hadn't paid him up-front. That is my stupidity though.


Well, I talked to the guy doing my tranny swap (Won't mention incase he is here, and don't want to give him a bad rep for the ungodly length of time he has taken.) At almost 4 months since I sent my car to him (4 months to the day in about 6 days) he has finally put my car 'under the knife' and it looks like he has done quite a bit. Man, I so can't wait to get my car back. He sent me pictures today so I know he isn't bullshitting me.

I am going to call him tonight and if he hasn't even started yet, I am going to have him send my money and car back plus pay the shipping that will have been wasted sending the car to him and back. Or does that not sound fair?

Holy crud, I didn't realize that it has been a whole month already... I am really starting to get anxious / worried, because last I heard he was doing a rebuild on a VR4 and the guy was jerking him around. So as of last time I heard from him about 2 weeks ago, he hadn't done anyting on it yet...

YAY My car shipped yesterday to get swapped for a manual!

I can't wait!

Just so this is all out there in perspective. Kevin, I have nothing against you at all except for the fact that have jerked this guy around this entire time. He has pleaded with you to get it done and EVERY time you tell him it's "worked out"...he comes on here and talks you up and what a great guy you are. Do you see now how many times you have had things "worked out" in the past and NOTHING is shown for it?

[stealthawd]

so are you saying what CFOOSE is saying is not slander?

I'm saying what CFOOSE says has no bearing on US3S, any of it's mods or admins or it's owner.

What CFOOSE says is his business and his liability...no one elses.

NOW...PLEASE STAY ON THE TOPIC OF FINISH THE GUYS CAR AND THIS IS ALL DONE WITH...

The topic...to maintain clarity is YOU have not finished this guys car in six months. Sad but true, but YOU are the topic.

[Kevin92RT]

OK...let's reminisce...shall we?














Just so this is all out there in perspective. Kevin, I have nothing against you at all except for the fact that have jerked this guy around this entire time. He has pleaded with you to get it done and EVERY time you tell him it's "worked out"...he comes on here and talks you up and what a great guy you are. Do you see now how many times you have had things "worked out" in the past and NOTHING is shown for it? i have not jerked him around at all

[Zoodled]

Split thread into two the best I could.
http://www.us3s.com/freeforum/showthread.php?t=4506
http://www.us3s.com/freeforum/showthread.php?t=4429

Mykiss69 stop PMing the admins and mods and finish the stupid car.

Mykiss69 wants people to be aware of his feedback on 3Si
http://www.3si.org/forum/traderratings.php?u=4904

I want this issue to be dead till after Christmas.

[Kevin92RT]

First off i havent had the car 6 months.Ok I am going to try and explain the 6 month ordeal. I received alarics car towards the end of june. Some where around the 28 of june or so. I was working on a vr4 in the shop and could not get his car in. so I took his car out to my house and left it there.i didn’t want to leave it here at the shop because we have a well known thief here in town and I figured he would bother it.i kept waiting on the guy with the vr4 to send me parts to finish his car.this went on for a while and I could not get alarics car in the shop.at the time I only had room for one car in the shop and I had this car in here and torn apart.another problem was locating parts to do the swap.i watched ebay religiously trying to find a second gen car to do the swap with . I even put up several post on 3si looking for either a car or some of the parts.i wanted everything to work fine when I got done (cruise ect ect).i had bid on several but never really found the car I needed.so I just saved the money back continuing to look for the right car.problem was even if I found the car I need and parts I needed I still could have not gotten the car in my shop to do the swap because I still had the vr4 in the way.i know I should have kept Alaric updated on why I had not gotten started on july on the car. I did however tell him about the troubles with the vr4.the altercation with CFOOSE happened on 8-02-04 at that time it cost me 3000.00 just to get out of jail.and a few days after that another 1000.00 to the lawyer. I spent every penny I had saved to my name. At that time I didn’t know what I was going to do with the vehicle’s i had at my shop I was working on. I didn’t have the money to buy a complete car to do his swap with.i had gathered some of the parts for the swap but did not have everything I needed. After all this had kinda settled down my lanlord notified me that the shop that is by my shop that I could get 2 cars in a still work on both was going to be becoming open.i had mentioned it to Alaric as soon as I found out which was around 8-31-04. ok I still had the vr4 in my other shop but was hoping I would get this 2 bay shop so I could bring alarics car in and get started on it. The vr4 finnaly went home on the 9-26-04 .i got the new shop on 9-27-04. I drove alarics car from my house and put it in the shop. 10-10-04 I sent Alaric pics of the car torn apart.he was really wanting it done in November and I tried but could not pull it off.i had several court dates and other things that got in the way of me doing it.remember I sell used parts and was selling a lot of things at that time.i had his car torn apart and really needed a couple harneses to finish it.i look all over ebay and on 3si and several other salvage yards and came up with a few leads.i bought several from different people and ended up getting the shaft.i had specifically asked for a 94-95 DOHC engine to ecu harness and the underdash harness.i never did end up finding one.Alaric sent me a pm on 3si and said that he had to have his car finished by 12-17-04.so I got more and more of the parts that I needed.since he gave me till the 17th I had took some other jobs on.nothing big just a clutch install and a exhaust swap. On 12-13-04 alaric made the big post in the good guy bad guy forum and on 3si buyer seller about all that had been going on.it did kinda get to me since he did say you have till the 17th to get it done.the problem was he could not get ahold of me because my laptop had crashed on 12-09-04.me and Alaric talked I belive on the 11th .he informed me to go ahead and get it done and not to worry about the cruise not working.now as all of you know I started working on alarics car again on 12-14-04 when I started back on it I still had to pull the auto brake assemblie and the steering column.so I got booth of those pulled.still had to hang the clutch pedal and install the shifter and runn the cables ect ect. By 12-15-04 the interior was completely back in the car other than the glove box.12-16-04 I spent pulling a engine and tranny out of a car and some other parts I needed for the swap.i did this outside since both of my shops where tied up. And yes it was colder than a well diggers ass outside.i got his and the tranny bolted together and ready to drop in the car.i still had to install the clutch slave to master line.12-17-04 got the engine set in the car and started hooking things up. Al aric called me around 4:30 pm I belive on 12-17-04 I told him the car was just about ready to go.he informed me that the shipping company was not going to be able to pick the car up till after the first of the year.i then told him that if I worked on the car a few more hours it would be done.just had to finish hooking things up.he then told me that as far as he was conserned I had met the deadline.and since the shipping company was not going to be able to pick it up till after the 1st it wasn’t a big deal and I had a few more days.i told him that I was going to go ahead and work on it for a little while but prob wouldn’t get it all done that night.he said that was fine.the next day I went ahead and finished the car up.got everything ready to start. On 12-23-04 I started the car up for the first time.i drove it from the big shop down and put it in the small shop.it ran very nicely.i do still have to put the hood back on it. I know you guys will prob pick at the story and call BS especially a couple of the admins and the moderators on this site. The only person I am concerned with is Alaric.we have everything worked out and his car will be going to the shipper next week. I am providing pictures of his car.

http://www.stealth3000gtparts.com/alarics_car_5.JPG
On 12-14-04 this is wht his car looked like.

http://www.stealth3000gtparts.com/alarics_car_6.JPG
on 12-15-04 at around 6pm or so it looked like this

http://www.stealth3000gtparts.com/alarics_car_7.JPG
on 12-15-04 at around 6pm or so it looked like this

http://www.stealth3000gtparts.com/alarics_car_8.JPG
on 12-17-04 after talking to alaric on the phone the car looked like this

[Kevin92RT]

http://www.stealth3000gtparts.com/alarics_car_1.JPG

http://www.stealth3000gtparts.com/alarics_car_2.JPG

http://www.stealth3000gtparts.com/alarics_car_3.JPG

http://www.stealth3000gtparts.com/alarics_car_4.JPG

these above 4 photo's where taken on 12-23-04 when i drove the car from the big shop to the little shop.

[Tool Man]

At this point all that matters to me is that Mr. toothpick is happy.

[stealthawd]

that is awesome...I think even a condensed version of that would have subsided everyone. i don't anyone is going to rip it apart. after many conversations and threads, we, as a whole, were just concerned for him and his car.

congrats...I think once he actually gets his car, you will have surpassed a large blemish.

that post was very well written...it did not focus on blaming everyone else and problems other than getting the dude's car done. thats fantastic. when I saw you started a thread and the long post, my first thoughts were that it was just going to be a huge ripfest. seriously...kudos!

[detpac]

that is awesome...I think even a condensed version of that would have subsided everyone. i don't anyone is going to rip it apart. after many conversations and threads, we, as a whole, were just concerned for him and his car.

congrats...I think once he actually gets his car, you will have surpassed a large blemish.

that post was very well written...it did not focus on blaming everyone else and problems other than getting the dude's car done. thats fantastic. when I saw you started a thread and the long post, my first thoughts were that it was just going to be a huge ripfest. seriously...kudos!
Well said. Maintained the topic. Good post. I still hope that toothpicks car is as it should be.

[Kevin92RT]

I just wanted to make the post and post the pics so that people could see what had happened.

[chewedtoothpick]

Thank you Kevin!

I am indeed VERY happy as long as it works. I know I was a bit short and impatient at times, and I am sorry for any inconveniences I forced upon you.

I look forward to enjoying my car when it gets home!

[Kevin92RT]

the pics in the vb garage of he white stealth are of alarics car.i took the pics today after taking the car to the car wash .

[detpac]

Thank you Kevin!

I am indeed VERY happy as long as it works. I know I was a bit short and impatient at times, and I am sorry for any inconveniences I forced upon you.

I look forward to enjoying my car when it gets home!
What is happening on this vehicle? Has it been delivered yet? Has it been checked out? I have not been contacted yet as to the status on the vehicle.

[Tool Man]

What is happening on this vehicle? Has it been delivered yet? Has it been checked out? I have not been contacted yet as to the status on the vehicle.

He was told it was delivered to the shipping company.

[detpac]

What is happening on this vehicle? Has it been delivered yet? Has it been checked out? I have not been contacted yet as to the status on the vehicle.
This was from Chewedtoothpick
I talked to the shipping company today, and they said that it leaves MO tomorrow (Thursday) and should be here by next Wednesday. It was not taken anywhere to be checked out, but the shipping company guy said 'It looks good' whatever that means (voluntarily said that.)

[detpac]

Any more info? Chewed, did the car make it? Please let me know.

[detpac]

I am opening this thread back up as I said I would. chewedtoothpick has his car back and was happy with the work that was done.

For everyone's information, mykiss69 has been banned from this site, permanently. If you have any questions about this thread, please talk to chewedtoothpick.

[chewedtoothpick]

Overall, I am okay with the whole ordeal... The car came out better than I had expected even in the beginning... There are a couple minor issues which I doube he had any control over, and at least one of them will just force me to do something I have been wanting to do just not motivated to. The tranny shifts excellent, comparatively... Smooth and nice, but I notice it has VERY weak syncros... I am guessing this is just something to get used to because every other sports-car I have owned (quite a few) has had weak syncros, just not quite this weak...

I am pleased... Not happy, not dis-satisfied... Pleased. The time and trouble was the only real issue that I have.

I would recommend Kevin if someone wants a good job for cheap, and can wait forever. But someone who can't wait - either make sure that every last minor detail is worked out before hand, and that no issues are in the way on his end (since he is a one man shop they disable him quite easily.)

Oh, and THANK YOU KEVIN!!! He gave me an owner's manual - something I had not had... YAY!!! That was a VERY NICE SURPRISE!!!