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imp pwr online
- June 29th, 2002, 12:42 AM
Well, after a week in my HOT arizona Garage, a few late nights getting 3 hours sleep, around 3 installs and uninstalls and reinstalls, many changes in configuration-location at what not, I have good solid test numbers.

Before Propane and with water-alky I would run 15psi (my cr is 8.5 up from stock 8.1 so my 15psi is edging 17psi acording to the final cr graph) I would easily touch 880c EGT and if running out to redline WOT in 3rd and going thru most of 4th I could top out at 920c which is kinda dangerous. Without 101 octane in an empty tankI could not keep knock down running my 15psi. It would normally hover around 10-17 knock count. Not something I like to see.

NOW, On with the show....

I started testing at low psi just to be safe. Around 10-12. No knock and EGT is LOW. I kept testing raising the PSI checking the pocketlogger, increasing some more.

After 2 hours (it is currently 95 degrees here) of CONTINUOUS-NON STOP WOT to Redline thru 2nd, 3rd, and 4th and tweaking the Propane settings and the S AFR I ended the night on what had to be blazing hot turbos.

What I ended up with:

Running 17psi (remember that is really closer to 19psi with my CR)

91 Octane gas

EGT topped out once at 840c after back to back 2-3 redline WOT

EGT after WOT 1-3rd to redline 800-820c depending on 1 minute to 5 minute rest off boost period

Knock counts by the end of the night on a HOTTER THAN HELL motor that was beat'n into the ground for 2 hours and turbos and IC's that had to be begging to STOP:

Oh, around 2-5 Sometimes Knock was 0-2.

AND I have bad motor mounts so some knock could be phantom, when I let go throttle fast the knock pops to 20+ and on the logger it is when Throttle position is 14%

AT no time can you ever smell propane and I run Apex-i Twin Chamber OPEN BOV.

I guess since it is Variable, I have it set to start in at around 2-3 psi and increase with boost from there, you NEVER feel anything but smooth power. No kick in like Nitrous, VTEC, NOTHING, just feels like running 101 in the tank. And at $4/gallon...I'll take the Propane.

After 2 hours of constant abuse On it more than off I weighed the tank. I used a little less than 1/2 pound. That's about 50 cents worth. In 101 that would have been easily 4 gallons @ $4/gallon...$16-no thanks!

And yes, the car is fast as hell now!


Any questions?

Griffin
- June 29th, 2002, 11:36 AM
That is freaking awsome. It must be nice to own a car that will RAPE about anything on the road. Please keep us informed.:)

Racer 007
- July 1st, 2002, 08:50 AM
Very awesome Chris. So it seems as though you are pretty happy with the outcome of the propane.

How would this perform on the N/A platform? Also, how would it perform when used with nitrous?

imp pwr online
- July 1st, 2002, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by Richard
Very awesome Chris. So it seems as though you are pretty happy with the outcome of the propane.

How would this perform on the N/A platform? Also, how would it perform when used with nitrous?

Is is activated by boost pressure, so t wouldn't work at all:(

Racer 007
- July 1st, 2002, 09:02 AM
:cry1:

imp pwr online
- July 1st, 2002, 11:12 PM
OK, here we go. Kinda hard on her tonight. Current temp outside is 103F and car had been running for an hour already kinda hard wot runs during that hour.

91 octane
17psi (8.5:1 17G's)

I ran back to back runs from around 3000rpm to redline in 3rd gear. I ran one WITHout propane, turned propane on, ran one WITH propane, turned it off ran WITHout ran it turned it on ran WITH it. These were all back to back, 30 seconds between, no rest for the motor.

BLACK thin vertical line is where the numbers are at

1st pic WITHOUT propane MAX 20 knock
http://www.importpoweronline.com/propane/no%20propane.jpg

2nd pic WITHOUT propane MAX 28 knock
http://www.importpoweronline.com/propane/no%20propane2.jpg

3rd pic with propane MAX 8 knock
http://www.importpoweronline.com/propane/propane.jpg

4th pic with propane MAX 8 knock
http://www.importpoweronline.com/propane/propane2.jpg

Racer 007
- July 2nd, 2002, 12:44 PM
Chris, how come when your O2 fluctuates, your knock is eliminated, but when the O2 stabilizes, the knock kicks in?

imp pwr online
- July 2nd, 2002, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Richard
Chris, how come when your O2 fluctuates, your knock is eliminated, but when the O2 stabilizes, the knock kicks in?

The fluctuating O2 is not WOT.

detpac
- November 26th, 2002, 01:31 AM
How much. I've seen DR's. I've seen yours. On Ebay your selling for around $220.00 average???

How easy / hard is it to install. I need propane but want a good working, easy to use product. I have read your posts on 3Si and here.

Any info?